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Postby Seneschal » 2009.08.18 (17:25)

Ok, my account is here: http://www.chess.com/members/view/Seneschal
My time zone is standard.

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Postby EdoI » 2009.08.18 (17:49)

Okay, I have three important stuff to say.
I've sent some invitations to few people who expressed their interest into a competition, so we might start with delay because of waiting for their answers, their integration and rescheduling. Also check your account regularly for friendship invitations of these new members that we might get.

The second thing is that chess on this server cannot be played with Opera.

And final, I'll repeat how to play:
I wrote:On chess.com you go on Play -> Live Chess, then you get My Friends In Live Chess list.

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Postby hmm » 2009.08.18 (18:46)

well this great. though i think i might have some problems by arnd november and october, if i make it that far.
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Postby Drathmoore » 2009.08.18 (19:11)

Hmm... I might have a few problems come September, due to my subjects. I'll keep you posted if I can't make a time, but it might end up a little short notice... No idea yet.

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Postby hmm » 2009.08.19 (14:48)

hey how do we play against each other in chess.com?
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Postby chume14 » 2009.08.19 (15:42)

can we play our matches on other dates if both players agree cause I might be away some of those days
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Postby EdoI » 2009.08.19 (16:05)

hmm wrote:hey how do we play against each other in chess.com?
Well, first you must have everyone from the list in your friends. Once you have them and you want to play, go on Play (top left) and choose Live Chess. There will be My Friends In Live Chess list where you just choose who you're playing with.
chume14 wrote:can we play our matches on other dates if both players agree cause I might be away some of those days
Sure, when's the problem?

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Postby otters~1 » 2009.08.19 (19:20)

Okay, I'm tentatively in, mostly to even the numbers (feel free to dump me if we end up with an odd number at some point). Since it seems to be on a 1-2 days/turn (or some sort of delay, at least), I should be able to play. I'll go join chess.com, and edit in my account name.

I believe I'm GMT-6 (US Central), and I'll double-check that.
EDIT: I'm on as 'flagmyidol', but whenever I try to request friends, it asks for email addresses, not account names.

EDIT 2: GMT-6 is only transient... right now it seems to be GMT-5. Screw Daylight Savings.

EDIT 3: Friend requests out, I think.
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Postby EdoI » 2009.08.19 (19:33)

flagmyidol wrote:EDIT: I'm on as 'flagmyidol', but whenever I try to request friends, it asks for email addresses, not account names.
Glad to see you in.
To add friends go to profile page (you don't need to search, there are direct links in the first post) and click Add to My Friends List on the right.

Edit: I'll try to reschedule asap.

Edit 2: I've made a major reschedule. Help me and check for mistakes. After round 10 we'll have a break and continue in February 2010.

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Postby otters~1 » 2009.08.19 (23:10)

Let me get this straight; I'm playing Seneschal at 9:00 GMT on the 22nd. That means that whoever makes the first move will play then, and our match will continue over the next few days, right? Because I can't just sit down and play chess for four hours... I might not even be able to make my first move until that evening. I really hope it's intermittent.

Another thing: what rules are we following on how to decide who goes first?
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Postby hmm » 2009.08.20 (07:51)

why the sudden reschedule?
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Postby Seneschal » 2009.08.20 (08:47)

flagmyidol wrote:Let me get this straight; I'm playing Seneschal at 9:00 GMT on the 22nd. That means that whoever makes the first move will play then, and our match will continue over the next few days, right? Because I can't just sit down and play chess for four hours... I might not even be able to make my first move until that evening. I really hope it's intermittent.

Another thing: what rules are we following on how to decide who goes first?
Yeah, you need to get a few things get cleared up first:
Timing: I would suggest 15-30 minutes per person (i.e. 30 minutes- 1 hour long games), as these times are quite short but allow for decent games, but I don't know how everyone else feels about this.
Also, points system: I assume it will be +1 for a win, +1/2 for a draw and +0 for a loss?

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Postby EdoI » 2009.08.20 (08:59)

flagmyidol wrote:Let me get this straight; I'm playing Seneschal at 9:00 GMT on the 22nd. That means that whoever makes the first move will play then, and our match will continue over the next few days, right? Because I can't just sit down and play chess for four hours... I might not even be able to make my first move until that evening. I really hope it's intermittent.

Another thing: what rules are we following on how to decide who goes first?
On the schedule, white is on the left, so whoever is on the left starts first. But in the next half of the league (which starts in February next year) the schedule will be the same, only everybody will switch sides.
About your next match... Well, it was planned to be live chess. I'll make another poll (it will appear in edited version of this post in five minutes, so stand by) where we're going to decide how long will the matches last. It won't be more than an hour (before we started talking on this issue, I had 10 mins per player in mind). After all, you can find some time when you have spare time, and it's in reasonable time for your opponnent.
hmm wrote:why the sudden reschedule?
Because of the two new participants, cheesemonger and flagmyidol, that weren't in the original schedule.
cheesemonger wrote:Timing: I would suggest 15-30 minutes per person (i.e. 30 minutes- 1 hour long games), as these times are quite short but allow for decent games, but I don't know how everyone else feels about this.
Also, points system: I assume it will be +1 for a win, +1/2 for a draw and +0 for a loss?
I've talked about the first part of your message in this post earlier.
About the point system, 1 point for win and 0.5 for a draw is pretty much the same thing as 2 for victory and 1 for draw. By the way, that poll ends in Saturday.

EDIT: Important poll here about the issue of match's length.

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Postby Tunco » 2009.08.20 (09:51)

cheesemonger wrote:Also, points system: I assume it will be +1 for a win, +1/2 for a draw and +0 for a loss?
Seconded.

Also, suppose that a person didn't came to the match because he had a job to do at the very last minute, and 5 minutes before the match starts, he says that what happened and he can't be in the match, the match will be automaticly postponed, right?

Otherwise, the other person wins?

Just asking.
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Postby EdoI » 2009.08.20 (11:57)

Tunco123 wrote:
cheesemonger wrote:Also, points system: I assume it will be +1 for a win, +1/2 for a draw and +0 for a loss?
Seconded.

Also, suppose that a person didn't came to the match because he had a job to do at the very last minute, and 5 minutes before the match starts, he says that what happened and he can't be in the match, the match will be automaticly postponed, right?

Otherwise, the other person wins?

Just asking.
I think it would be better to postpone than to give points.

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Postby 999_Springs » 2009.08.20 (13:12)

Could you move my Round 4 match back by 1 day and 2 hours, and postpone my Round 6 match by 1 day, and actually give me a Round 10 match?

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Postby EdoI » 2009.08.20 (13:45)

999_Springs wrote:Could you move my Round 4 match back by 1 day and 2 hours, and postpone my Round 6 match by 1 day, and actually give me a Round 10 match?
I've moved what you wanted, except for this which I didn't understand:
and actually give me a Round 10 match?

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Postby Seneschal » 2009.08.20 (14:31)

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999_Springs wrote:Could you move my Round 4 match back by 1 day and 2 hours, and postpone my Round 6 match by 1 day, and actually give me a Round 10 match?
I've moved what you wanted, except for this which I didn't understand:
and actually give me a Round 10 match?
If you look on the round 10 spoiler in your first post, you'll see that his match isn't up there. He's due to be playing tunco in round 10, I think.

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Postby EdoI » 2009.08.20 (15:17)

cheesemonger wrote:
EdoI wrote:
999_Springs wrote:Could you move my Round 4 match back by 1 day and 2 hours, and postpone my Round 6 match by 1 day, and actually give me a Round 10 match?
I've moved what you wanted, except for this which I didn't understand:
and actually give me a Round 10 match?
If you look on the round 10 spoiler in your first post, you'll see that his match isn't up there. He's due to be playing tunco in round 10, I think.
Actually that is not an error. You'll notice that in the round 6 you and flagmyidol are not playing, in the round 7 it's me and Flight, in 8 it's chume14 and hmm, in 9 it's Drathmoore and Donfuy, and in the last it's 999_Springs and Tunco123.
It's just the way it has to be, and we don't want matches to repeat.

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Postby otters~1 » 2009.08.20 (20:50)

I flat cannot play if it's a sit-down match. Is there any way that we could use chess.com still, but have the matches last a couple of days? Like, I could play, and a few hours later Seneschal could log-on, see I had played, and respond? It would take some time, but otherwise I can't spend that long in front of a computer.

If the above is not an option, drop me without a second thought, but I don't think I'm the only one who would have this problem.
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Postby EdoI » 2009.08.20 (21:12)

flagmyidol wrote:I flat cannot play if it's a sit-down match. Is there any way that we could use chess.com still, but have the matches last a couple of days? Like, I could play, and a few hours later Seneschal could log-on, see I had played, and respond? It would take some time, but otherwise I can't spend that long in front of a computer.

If the above is not an option, drop me without a second thought, but I don't think I'm the only one who would have this problem.
Those matches would last forever. What would happen when the players are in far time zones? Are you sure you won't be able to find spare twenty minutes (shorter, probably)?
Well, there are no other options than a poll! :D Here it is!

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Postby Seneschal » 2009.08.20 (21:22)

flag,
first, 15 minutes per person (which is what I voted for) isn't that long.
Second, I reckon I could beat you before the whole time has elapsed anyway ;)

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Postby otters~1 » 2009.08.21 (00:37)

Thirty minutes isn't very long for a chess match. I suppose if you want to put us on a clock or something, we could do that... I still might not even have thirty minutes at one sitting. As it happens, I think I'll be fine for this Saturday's match, so it doesn't matter just yet, at least in my case.

Correction, I probably won't have a problem, if our game is moved up about three or four hours.

I'm too busy for this, long term. :/
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Postby 999_Springs » 2009.08.21 (13:25)

flagmyidol wrote:Is there any way that we could use chess.com still, but have the matches last a couple of days? Like, I could play, and a few hours later Seneschal could log-on, see I had played, and respond? It would take some time, but otherwise I can't spend that long in front of a computer.
That was my original suggestion. A sort of simultaneous nine-games-at-the-same-time with two days for each move. I would actually like that.

I would accept the current schedule, though, without any changes. It's just that I'm much better at playing longer games than short ones. I HATE CHESS CLOCKS.
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Postby EdoI » 2009.08.21 (13:50)

Vote in the poll about the current issue.
flagmyidol wrote:Correction, I probably won't have a problem, if our game is moved up about three or four hours.
Okay then. Just the match with cheese?


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